DODGY TYPES CAUGHT - And memorial to be altered

Seven people(now as they are terrorists, I for one would describe them as untermenchen) have been detained by police and Immigration Service officers under powers allowing deportation for national security reasons.

Six were held in London and one in Greater Manchester.

Sources said all the detainees were Algerians and the majority were among the eight men cleared in April of involvement in a ricin poison plot.

The home secretary said he ordered the raids following "detailed submissions" from the police and security services.

But Charles Clarke refused to comment on the individual cases of those detained on Thursday.

The Metropolitan Police said no-one had been arrested on criminal charges. The Home Office said the seven people detained were being held in "secure prison service accommodation" under the 1971 Immigration Act.

Those detained have the right to appeal. The same powers were used in August to detain another 10 foreign nationals said to pose a threat to national security, including radical Jordanian cleric Abu Qatada.

Of the eight men cleared of involvement in the alleged ricin plot in April, four were tried and found not guilty and a further four were acquitted after the prosecution offered no evidence against them.

Another man, Kamel Bourgass, 31, was found guilty of plotting to spread the substance and other poisons on UK streets at the Old Bailey trial and jailed for 17 years.

The detentions took place as Mr Clarke set out plans to allow terror suspects to be held for three months without charge.

Outlining a series of new anti-terror proposals, Charles Clarke unveiled plans to identify new offences of incitement to terrorism and "acts preparatory to terrorism".

He is seeking cross-party consensus in an effort to get new laws through Parliament quickly in the wake of the London bombings in July.

He told BBC News: "As, unfortunately, we saw in July, there are individuals who are going about the course of trying to threaten the civil liberties of this country by terrorist or potential terrorist attacks.

"To the extent we know about those... it's our job to defend ourselves against that, as vigorously as we possibly can."

But the director of human rights group Liberty, Shami Chakrabati, told BBC News 24 that Thursday's arrests under old immigration legislation proved new anti-terror measures were unnecessary.

"Doesn't this prove - if we needed proof - that we already have some pretty broad powers in this country to deal with people who are thought non-conducive to the public good or a threat to national security?" she said.

** Here we go again, more terrorist scum get caught and what happens the bleeding heart whiney liberal types want to kiss and make up. Charles Clark is a coward in that he wont put these - or any other - gutless arseholes on a plane back to whatever shithole they crawled themselves out of.

As for the Guardian reading liberals who make up Liberty, they are trying to suggest that racial profiling is a bad thing? Being as most of the terrorists are commited by muslims, and most of them are of a different colour, it therefore stands to reason that you will need to use racial profiling in order to spot them.


WASHINGTON - The architect of the memorial to a plane downed in Pennsylvania on Sept. 11, 2001, said Wednesday he would work to satisfy critics who complained that it honors terrorists with its crescent-shaped design.

Designer Paul Murdoch said he is "somewhat optimistic" that the spirit of the design could be maintained.

"It's a disappointment there is a misinterpretation and a simplistic distortion of this, but if that is a public concern, than that is something we will look to resolve in a way that keeps the essential qualities," Murdoch, 48, of Los Angeles, said in a telephone interview.

This Crescent-shaped memorial was a bad idea, and the sooner its altered to a more fitting non islamonazi design the better. Seeing that you can understand why the the relatives of those who died are upset. Heres a link to some news on this: www.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050915/ap_on_re_us/sept11_memorial_2/

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