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Local MP - Paul Flynn(New Labour) - Sticks knife into troops


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Paul Flynn the libelist MP, who is known for making dubious comments(at best) in the House has stuck the knife into the good work being done by our troops in Afganistan.

In order to make petty points, appeal to the anti war left our MP berates the good work being done to make Afganistan a safe nation for its people. The following is from his site - links etc at the bottom - and my comments are in red.

Britain's Vietnam **- No Paul, we were invited in by the new government of Afganistan, oh and Vietnam is thousands of miles away. Remind me to post him a map at some point.

The first death of a British soldier in the Helmand Province of Afghanistan could herald the start of Britain's Vietnam and lead to the Columbiaisation of a vast area of Central Asia. It's mission impossible. - Now nothing like starting on a positive note is there, dealing with a few hardline Taliban and drug dealers - although they seem to be one and the same - is not impossible, just day to day work for our excellent troops.

The Russians went into Afghanistan with great hope and confidence. They were there for 10 years and lost 15,000 soldiers. When they left there was an army of mujaheddin of 30,000 surrounding Kabul. Their presence there, like that of all other invading nations for the
past centuries, had antagonised Afghanistan's population. - The Russians invaded, oh and the mujaheddin were supplied with weapons by the west - now come on Paul you must remember that after all you were a young CND commie yourself in days gone by. Again we are not invading but have been asked in by the Afgans themselves.

We know that the answer to terrorism is not to go in with guns blazing, but to win the hearts and minds of the people. Helmand has been relatively peaceful. . We are assisting in the eradication of the region's only means local people have to escape the dirt poverty of their existence. There is no more certain way of losing the hearts and minds and driving Afghanis into the hands of the Taleban. - Assisting in the eradication of drugs is a good thing - although not for the people involved in that evil trade, so your arguement is to keep them growing opium for the addicts of the west? Oh and you "forget" to mention the development aid being sent there to help them grow alternate crops.


There is an alternative. We can attack another world crisis. If someone in a developing country is dying of AIDS or other terminal diseases, there is only a 6 per cent. chance that they will get relief from their agony from diamorphine. Some 70 per cent. of the world's supply of this most powerful painkiller is used in the richest 7 developed countries leaving little for the rest of the world.There is also a desperate shortage of medicinal diamorphine (heroin) in the UK, which has persisted for at least 12 months. - Now your getting off track here Paul, you started on our so called Vietnam and have wandered off onto drug policy.

In Afghanistan, we are destroying the raw material for making heroin which is also the raw material for making morphine. Operation Enduring Freedom is now operation enduring stupidity. The alternative is to license some of the poppy growers in the Helmand province, to win them over to our side, and to solve the problem of the world shortage of morphine. That is a simple solution. It is not guaranteed to be a perfect success. but it offers hope and will avoid
the tragedies of conflict on all sides. - Again had you done research you would see that this is already happening, albeit slowly.

Crop destruction has failed spectacularly elsewhere. The problem of Colombia was considered very simple as far as the United States was concerned decades ago. They set out to destroy the coca crops which have been grown in South America for a thousand years, and used an an appetite suppressant and as a medicine for altitude sickness. After nearly two decades of
suppression of the coca crop, the result is no improvement. The amount of coca on the world market has increased and the street price is lower because of the squeezed balloon principle. Reducing crop production in Colombia increases production in Peru and Bolivia. The supply on the streets in the United States remains the same. - Ok, again your getting off track onto drug policy, lets get back to Afganistan shall we.

The result of spending $4.7 billion on Coca eradication with Plan Columbia is a 20% increase in
Colombian Coca production this year. Any reduction in the Afghan poppy crops would result in increased planting in Myanmar, Tajikistan, Kazakhstan and north Pakistan. It's mission futile with deadly consequences. No eradication of Helmand poppies will reduce the heroin availability on the streets of Britain. So far the British taxpayers has forked out £115 million on poppy eradication with abject results. This year's poppy harvest will be the highest ever and the price of heroin on our streets is the lowest ever. - Doom and gloom then is it? The crux of your arguement is that its pointless as the drug lords will just up sticks and go to the next nation to grow opium. Well seems that lots of people disagree and think its worth fighting the drug trade rather than waving the white flag.

Four Afghan farmers visited the House of Commons earlier this year and testified to their desire to transfer into the legal production of opium for morphine. They want a peaceful future. What we are offering is loss of their livelihood and an escalation in conflict. We will witness destruction of the crops that will be paid for with the lives of British soldiers. Then we will be told that we must continue with this doomed campaign or those soldiers lives will have been lost in vain. - Seem to be repeating your self mantra style there Paul. Oh and nice to see that you feel our soldiers are dying in vain, how about we just up sticks then bring them all home, let the drug lords cow the people of Afganistan with a reign of terror and let the jihadists head chop anyone they dislike.

When the troops set off for Afghanistan, the front-page headline of The Independent read with an air of prophesy, "Into the Valley of Death". Someone looking back on this folly in ten years' time might well amend the words of Tennyson's poem about ministerial and officer folly to describe the tragedy that is about to unfold. - Ah yes that well informed paper(sic) The Independent, still depends on your viewpoint really.

"Someone had blunder'd . . .
Their's not to reason why,
Their's but to do and die:
Into the valley of Death-
or into the mouth of Helmand-drove the 5,000." - Expect nothing else from a backbench Zanu New Labour libelist who has a bad temper and wants to repeal our drug laws. Oh and maybe if he actually bothered to look at the casulty figures he would see that lots of jihadi taliscum have been wiped out in recent weeks. Hardly a bogged down Vietnam war now is it, who knows if he can drag his lefty arse away from the BBC type bias he spouts he may realise that allied forces are actually winning this one.

http://paul-flynn.blogspot.com/2006/04/paul-flynn-mp-libelist.html
My previous articles on the libelist:
ID cards: id-cards-list-of-mps-who-voted-yes.
http://newportcity.blogspot.com/2006/02/paul-flynn-mp-fucktard.html
http://newportcity.blogspot.com/2006/01/paul-flynn-libelist-mp-soft-on-drugs.html
http://newportcity.blogspot.com/2006/01/some-bits-on-jessica-morden-mp.html
http://newportcity.blogspot.com/2005/12/paul-flynn-convicted-of-libel-still.html
http://newportcity.blogspot.com/2005/11/paul-flynn-pays-out-36000.html
http://newportcity.blogspot.com/2006/01/labour-isnt-working-loudmouth-libelist.html

media stories about the libel case where MP Paul Flynn ran his mouth:
From CSC site
from icnetwork
from independent
from money.guardian
The libelists site: http://www.paulflynnmp.co.uk/
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Oh and his apology for libel:
Recently Paul Flynn was involved in a libel case where he made comments about an endowment pensions company, the result of which he had to pay out damages. He was sued after he posted an attack on such companies on his website, claiming they were out to "re-rob" the victims of endowment mis-selling by dishonestly over-charging them for their services.
But he made the mistake of referring to well-regarded company Endowment Justice Ltd, which represents mis-selling victims on a "no-win, no-fee" basis. The company and its directors sued and at London's High Court Mr Flynn made a public apology for the "unjustified attack" on the claimants' integrity.
The MP as part of the settlement put the following statement on his website: On this website in February this year, I made certain statements referring to Endowment Justice Limited, one of the companies which offers assistance in obtaining compensation for those people who were mis-sold endowment policies. I have been campaigning against companies providing professional services in relation to endowment policy compensation claims, but my facts about Endowment Justice were incorrect. As a result, I wrongly accused the company and its directors Nick Keca, Marianne Fitzjohn and Graeme Webber of having previously mis-sold endowment policies and now dishonestly overcharging those self-same victims to help them obtain compensation. I am happy to clarify that neither Endowment Justice Ltd or any of its directors were ever involved in any aspect of endowment policy selling. It was therefore false and unfair to suggest that they had profited from the historic mis-selling of endowment policies. I was also incorrect in stating that Endowment Justice, which offers its services in recovering compensation on a “no-win, no-fee” basis, could charge its customers up to 40% of any compensation gained. Endowment Justice in fact charge customers 17.5% plus VAT or 22.5% plus VAT of any compensation gained. I was wrong to give the unintended impression that the company or its directors acts in any way improperly or unlawfully in providing services to those seeking compensation for endowment policy mis-selling. I would like to apologise to Endowment Justice for my allegations, and to Mr. Keca, Ms. Fitzjohn and Mr. Webber for any embarrassment or distress caused by my false remarks.
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