The 2nd trial of the two BNP members has started, this after the last trial fell apart. Yet the powers that be here in the UK are determined to get the "correct result" and if that means wasting yet more tax payers money in order to get that then so be it.
Never mind the fact that a jury decided the last time that there was no case to answer, the CPS and its New Labour masters have chosen to push political views into the courts a second time.
Some links on the trial: http://www.bnp.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=1221
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=1222
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=1226
Oh and here is the site about the last show trial that these men had to endure: http://freespeechontrial.blogspot.com/
Mind you this is not just the BNP who are having to defend the right of free speech, only this week we had the case of two London Underground workers charged with racial harassment after they joked about a bag of Jelly Babies, a farce that dragged on for two years and cost the taxpayer a small fortune thrown out. One can only wonder how long before the loonies in the CPS decide to retry these poor men in order to get the "correct result."
After all according to the powers in the UK they must be guilty as they are white, never mind the 250,000 cost to the tax payer lets have a retrial.
Story Here: Jelly Baby Trial
Tags:BNP
Nick Griffin
Mark Collett
Jelly Babies
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13 people have spoken:
Did you realise it took the prosecution a whole 2 hours to present their case, and that included the showing of three speeches by Nick and Mark.
That was it 2 hours, 3 films, no witnesses, no harrasing of the defendants in the witness box, no lengthy prose from the barristers.
The defence case starts on monday and is expected to last 2 to 3 days
It beggars belief to be honest that Nick and Mark are up in front of twelve men and women yet again
Yeah its a damn poor state of affairs here in the UK and thats a fact.
These racists were found not guilty on only a few of the original counts, the jury hung on others, so this is the retrail on the remaining counts.
Racism in the UK is a serious problem, and is a criminal offense. I'm not sure why everyone thinks that the level of freedom of speech enjoyed in the US is the same worldwide, because it's not. In the UK, as in most of Europe, racist incitement to violence is prosecuted.
Would that the laws were applied the same to all citizens of the UK then there would be no reason to complain.
Yet when comments are made about another 9/11 by islamofascists here in the Uk the police/cps do nothing.
The same for black on white crime, yet when the BNP speak out they are hauled before the courts twice...
So the Rev Jim Sutter is left with egg on his face. Those he calls 'racists' have now been found not guilty on the remaining counts.
The Rev Sutter is always posting on sites saying what a peaceful religion Islam is. It is quite clear that he knows nothing of Islamic terrorism. In fact I suspect he knows nothing of any form of terrorism.
Our Rev seems to be a tad misguided with regard the wicked faith, er, sorry the Religion of Peace.
The "rev" Sutter is a liar. He has claimed to have earned four Purple Hearts, one Bronze Star, and one Navy Cross.
http://web.archive.org/web/20021008231206/members.aol.com/revjimsutter/revjim.html
He has also claimed to have 26 years in counter terrorism.
(26 years counter terrorism claim)
http://www.frontpagemag.com/GoPostal/commentdetail.asp?ID=24692&commentID=771865
'Rev Jim's Profile' (updated Dec 23, 2006) says he is 51.
http://360.yahoo.com/profile-bGBi9z8jfrADVqQ0RCB09HgCSkU-
Now reads what he wrote about himself sept 1995 bit.listserv.ada-law this doesn't match this up with his claims of being in the navy for 26 years. Unless of course he was *disabled* while in the Navy.
http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.ada-law/msg/081543910a49a240?hl=en&
"Most of you know I am quite ill, with cancer, Stage 4 congestive heart failure, chronic hypoxemia, asthma, sleep apnea, diabetes, incomplete SCI at
T-12, spinal arthritis, uncoordinated parastalsys, and a brain tumor. I am
not expected to make it to the end of this year. At first I said "Yeah, I'm too young and handsome to die", but now I'm not so sure that I'm so young anymore. :>) It is taking a very long time to bounce back from my last heart attack, in August."
This page especially funny look at what he claims to be a picture of himself
http://web.archive.org/web/20030628225716/http://members.aol.com/revjimsutter/jimspics.html
But one look in Sutter's AOL image folder we see the real picture of Sutter called "me years ago"
http://members.aol.com/revjimsutter/images/me%20years%20ago.jpg
It's good match with the one on his yahoo profile today
BTW he paid for his ordination from The Universal Life Church but at one time he made the claim that he was a Catholic minister.
http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.ada-law/msg/98eeaf68912e2cf5?hl=en&
http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.ada-law/msg/f53de9ea3d33ae5e?hl=en&
Modesto, CA is ULC headquarters and Bishop Kirby Hensley is a ULC bishop
Here is another place where he has lied about being in the Navy "I am a proud Republican, a 26 year veteran of the USN, with a military career in counterterrorism."
http://www.911familiesforamerica.org/?p=106
BTW Sutter has also claimed to have had a heart transplant.
Read this bit of drivel
A CHRISTMAS MIRACLE
Most of us have some sort of religious faith, whether it be Christian, Protestant, Catholic, Islam, Buddism, Hindu, B'Hai, or Judaism. Most of us believe in some sort of supreme being, no matter what name we use. I happen to be Catholic, and call Him God. In this, the holiest season in many religions, we should take some time to reflect on what is possible with God's help, no matter how bad we feel our lives are...
One of the first things we do when we are in trouble is pray. We ask God to help us out of trouble. Too few people, when having a good day, pray to thank God for the good day. We are content with only praying when we need help. "Why doesn't God answer our prayers?" is a common question when we do pray for intercession. God does answer all prayers. But sometimes the person isn't listening for the answer, and sometimes the answer is "No". We must remember that God will always give us what we need, not what we want. We must also realize that, sometimes, God will greatly surprise everyone.
For some time I have been aware that I am dying. The prognosis was that the cancer had invaded my heart, and had weakened it beyond salvation. I was given less than a year, and told to make my final arrangements. I visited the funeral home made those arrangements. I visited my attorney to set up my Last Will and Testament and DNR=20 (Do Not Resuscitate) order. My family prepared, as best they could. My doctors, a dedicated team at the Cleveland Clinic, one of the world's finest medical institutions, searched for a way they could safely give me a heart transplant. The chances of the cancer invading the new heart were very high, and made the risk of transplant failure unacceptable.
Somewhere around the beginning of December, I knew that it was time to pray for a Christmas miracle. Figuring it couldn't hurt, I added it to my daily prayers. I asked God, if He so willed, to give my family a Christmas miracle. I wasn't even specific about what miracle I needed. I left that up to God...
Within seven days, God answered, and gave my family their Christmas miracle. On my most recent visit to my primary physician, new tests were done, and the tumors in my heart have disappeared...completely, without any surgery, without chemotherapy. Gone. Totally and completely. It astounded my doctor, who re-evaluated the tests, and confirmed it. I thought it was great, because doctors' egos need to be deflated every once in a while! Something like this make doctors feel like they really don't know everything there is to know about the human body. I recently heard a most appropriate bit of humor: "What is the difference between a doctor and God ? God doesn't think He is a doctor."
The point of this story is that, no matter what your situation, no matter what crisis you may be experiencing, ASK GOD FOR HELP. You don't have to recite rote prayers over and over if you don't feel like it. Praying can be just like talking to someone, except the "someone" is God. If you really "need" the help, He will give it.
Merry Christmas and have a happy and safe holiday season.
Rev. Jim Sutter
E-Mail: IRISH38@aol.com
Web site: http://pages.prodigy.com/OH/zrjj15a/revjim.html
And here are more of his lies written in 1995. I wonder if the Navy knew he was in a wheelchair.
http://web.archive.org/web/19961224152221/pages.prodigy.com/OH/zrjj15a/
ADA NEWS FROM OHIO
Hi. My name is Rev. Jim Sutter. I am an ordained Catholic minister, serving as chaplain at a local hospital, also as chaplain to a terminal care support group and a national advocacy organization.
For the past several years, I have worked aggresively to encourage compliance with civil rights laws that require equal rights for persons with disabilities (PWD) . My hometown of Lakewood, Ohio has been the biggest offender in Northern Ohio, since the city administration here is strongly anti-ADA. The city administration has even gone so far as to take down handicapped parking signs and paint over pavement markings.
I myself am a PWD, fighting congestive heart failure, SVT episodes, chronic hypoxemia, diabetes, hearing impairment, unstable asthma, coronary artery disease, sleep apnea, an incomplete SCI at T-12, and neuromuscular disabilities.
Despite all this, I strap on my wheelchair and portable respirator each day and go about my ministry work. I visit hospital patients, nursing homes and a local prison, to bring compassion, understanding and hope to those who suffer. ... The latest developments in my fight to get my hometown to comply with federal accessibility laws, during the weeks of late Sept/early October, 1995, see the local police telling me they have been "ordered" to find something or make up something to force me to stop my advocacy, even if it involves placing me in jail.
In reaction to these latest threats, a large group of advocates, attorneys, politicians, professionals and disabled persons has come riding to the rescue ! An aggressive campaign of letter writing, petitions, media and congressional contacts is in full swing, and these wonderful people, who are doing almost all this work over the Internet, are working hard to relieve some of the load on me. This may be an historic event, when many different people and groups work together on the internet to achieve a common goal.
My doctors tell me that I will most probably die soon, because my heart has been damaged too far to repair. I pray every day that I can leave some small mark on mankind, even if it's just getting my hometown to obey the law and become accessible.
More to follow... ...
Now here he is admitting he is in fact a ULC minister ands that the Catholic Church is not happy about that.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.universal-life/msg/f5b8a0bf7fc78823?hl=en&
From: RevJimS@aol.com (RevJimS)
Subject: Need Assistance from ULC Members
Date: 1996/08/1
Message-ID: <4v612f$61h@newsbf02.news.aol.com>#1/1
newsgroups: alt.religion.universal-life
Has anyone ordained by ULC had trouble with their former religious group?
I am Roman Catholic, and had continued to attend mass after ULC
ordination, but now the Cleveland RC Diocese has sent me a written warning
that if I continue as a ULC minister I will be excommunicated !
This could invalidate my marriage, keep me from receiving sacraments, being
buried in a Catholic cemetary, etc.
Has anyone else had this problem ? Does anyone have any advise on this matter ? Thanks in advance.
Rev. Jim Sutter D.D. D.B.
Cleveland, Ohio
RevJimS@aol.com
Rev. James M. Sutter,
D.D. D.B.
Universal Life Church
Cleveland, Ohio USA
I see my cyberstalker has shown up. LadyLexington, aka Jeanette Runyon, having been exposed in http://hatewatchhallofshame.blogspot.com (see Exploring a Weird Hate Monger) and having once again been released too early from her inpatient care, violates the restraining order. Remember what they told you last time, Jeanette. Keep violating the order and conditions of your release and they'll have to re-institutionalize you for a long, long time.
Rev reckon your gonna have to fight it out with her, settle outside in the school yard.
How pathetic that this over-weight, windbag imitation "man of God" has to resort to lie defamation and personal attacks to distract from the subject at hand.
fido said...
Rev reckon your gonna have to fight it out with her, settle outside in the school yard.
I know, Fido, I've got other folks doing my heavy lifting, but this cyberstalker just doesn't give up, she's posted this trash to thousands of websites. I'm not her first stalking victim, but I will be her last.
Still stand by it, think the old Queensbury rules and last man or woman standing settles the arguement.
I think the phony "revered” is on the losing end. Bloggers are now aware what a mendacious liar and poser this man is. After all what kind of loon says he is a Baptists minister yet puts CPM (which stands for Congregatio Presbyterorum a Misericordia the Fathers of Mercy, an Roman Catholic Congregation of Priests) after his name? http://tinyurl.com/yuq3v3
More web pages about "Rev" Sutter
http://www.phonyrev.com/
http://jihadswatch.blogspot.com/search?q=Sutter
http://myflandersfields.blogspot.com/2007/07/incredible-cyberjihadists-in-canada-us.html#comment-5020818599765416068
http://exposingsutter.blogspot.com
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Articles/Sutter.htm
http://foehammer.net/2007/07/kooky-jim-sutter-good-news-on-spreading-ban-of-hate-speech-site.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/017000.php
http://jihadswatch.blogspot.com/search?q=Sutter
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/188605.php
http://www.vigilantfreedom.org/910blog/2007/07/05/censorship-of-jihadwatch/#comments
http://snorphty.blogspot.com/2007/07/blocker-of-conservative-sites.html
http://snorphty.blogspot.com/2007/09/our-old-friend-rev_12.html
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