Neil Kinnock - The debt New Labour owes him.

One looks at the duplicity of New Labour with its spin, double standards and lies and the question has to be asked quite how did this come about?

Now old Labour realised that it was not going to get elected, they had a non nuclear stance and even played the Europe card saying that the UK would be best out of the EU under leader Michael Foot - a stance that Kinnock has now changed somewhat in his role for the EU.

Many believe that the era of New Labour spin started with Blair, not so Blair is in many ways the bastard son of Neil Kinnock.

When Kinnock took over the failing party in 1983 he had to make changes, he spoke out against the Trotskyists and other left wingers, not for their thuggery and extreme views but because they were the true party face and that had to be hidden.

A classic example is the defence policy that Labour put forward wanting the UK to be non nuclear and for all US bases to be closed here in the UK. Kinnock - at a time when we faced the old Soviet Union - stated that "there were no circumstances in which he would ask the United States to use nuclear weapons in the defence of Britain."

The Tories made much of that and so from then on Labour spun its views on the nuclear option and now play the defence card.

Of course we also have Kinnocks classic gaf during a tv debate in which he suggested that Labours response to agression would be to take to the hills.

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