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Time recently ran this fluff bit on how super and spiffingly good an Islamic state would be.
http://www.timeout.com/london/features/2993.html

It’s the capital’s fastest growing religion, based on noble traditions and compassionate principles, yet Islam can still be tainted by mistrust and misunderstanding. Here Time Out argues that an Islamic London would be a better place - I argue against - my points are in red.

The noise from the expectant crowd hushed to a murmur as an open-backed lorry that had driven slowly up the Mall – known since the Islamic revolution of 2021 as The Way of the Martyrs – nudged its way through the thousands gathered in Mohammad Sidique Khan Square. On the lorry, two masked guards held a young man, black hood over his head; a quiver running through the material suggested he knew what was coming.

The lorry halted by the plinth that had once held Marc Quinn’s sculpture ‘Alison Lapper Pregnant’ – long since removed as an insult to decency – and was now the place of public execution. A rope noose attached to a wire cable hung from a mechanised hoist. The main doors of what had been the National Gallery flung open and an Imam walked down the steps of the new Institute of Islamic Jurisprudence, opened only a week before by Sultan Charles, Prince of Islam and protector of the faithful in England.

The official executioner placed a stepladder against the plinth. The lorry pulled up and the young man was pushed out, then forced up the ladder. The noose was forced over the condemned man’s head. The crowd chanted ‘Allahu akbar’ (God is greater than everything).

The hoist driver put his finger on a green button … Okay, not really – that’s a hysterical, right-wing nightmare of a future Muslim London: where an cruel alien creed is forced on a liberal city. A society where women are second-class citizens, same sex relationships a crime and Sharia law enforces terrible public disfigurement and death. But the reality is a long, long way from this dark vision.

**A vision that the Taliban brought in when they came to power, the oppression of women, the brutal slaying of rival factions, oppression and ethnic cleansing in the name of Allah, slaughter of homosexuals, chopping off of hands for minor infractions of Islamic law(as they saw it) and whipping of women who dared to go outside without a male guardian. Even to the point when the flying of bloody kites could result in torture at the hands of religious loons.

For a start, Islam is not an alien religion to London. At the end of World War I the city sat at the heart of an Empire that had 160 million Muslim subjects, 80 million in India alone. London was the largest Islamic capital in the world. Forty years later and the end of the Empire, unrest and war and poverty in south Asia had lead to mass immigration to the mother country and London became a Muslim capital in another sense.

**However the numbers of moslems were never as high, also the numbers of radical moslems willing to kill themselves for a religious state here in the UK or for any other reason has also never been as high. We are a Christian nation and should remain as such.

According to the 2001 census there are 607,083 Muslims living in London (310,477 men and 296,606 women). The majority of Muslims live in the east of the city and, by 2012, the Muslim Council of Britain estimates that the Muslim population of Tower Hamlets, Newham, Waltham Forest and Hackney will be 250,000. There are plans afoot (though no formal application has yet been submitted) to build the UKs biggest mosque – capable of welcoming 40,000 worshippers – near the 2012 Olympic site, a move which has prompted predictable outrage from some quarters.

**Predicable due to the many radical moslems who have come in from places like Saudi Arabia to preach hate. Plus a fair few home grown radicals who have also done no great service to their religion or its aims. Also there is still a lot of distrust towards the moslem faith due to 7/7 -9/11 - Madrid - Beslan - Bali etc; and reports that many moslems see those attacks by their co religionists as part of conspiracy against them by the kufir governments.

Consequently, Muslim disillionment with a reactionary and often ill-informed press is at an all time high. But rather than fear the inevitable changes this will bring to London, or buy in to a racist representation of all Muslims as terrorists, we should recognise both what Islam has given this city already, and the advantages it would bring across a wide range of areas in the future.

**That would be the ill informed press that reports on moslem extremists I take it? Oh and reports on the ongoing terrorist trials.

Public health
On the surface, Islamic health doesn’t look good: the 2001 census showed that 24 per cent of Muslim women and 21 per cent of Muslim men suffered long-term illness and disability. But these are factors of social conditions rather than religion. In fact, Islam offers Londoners potential health benefits: the Muslim act of prayer is designed to keep worshippers fit, their joints supple and, at five times a day, their stomachs trim. The regular washing of the feet and hands required before prayers promotes public hygiene and would reduce the transmission of superbugs in London’s hospitals.

**Ok but what about honour killings, thats not very good for the health of the person slaughtered. All a membership to the gym will keep one fit, hardly a reason to change ones faith. Oh and bringing the superbug into it is just sloppy reporting, that can be resolved quite easily by proper procedures in hospitals. Oh and don't worry about headaches after a jihadist Ken Bigley style beheading, oh and women well all your medical woes will be over after being stoned to death for unproven indiscretions of Mohammeds laws.

Alcohol is haram, or forbidden, to Muslims. As London is above the national average for alcohol-related deaths in males, with 17.6 per 100,000 people (Camden has 31.6 per 100,000 males), turning all the city’s pubs into juice bars would have a massive positive effect on public health. Forbid alcohol throughout the country, and you’d avoid many of the 22,000 alcohol-related deaths and the £7.3 billion national bill for alcohol-related crime and disorder each year.

**You may not choose to drink but I and many non moslems chose to, also the sale of alcohol is allowed in some moslem nations. A more tolerant option one would think, not that some moslem governments are known for their tolerance of non moslem ways.

Ecology
‘The world is green and beautiful,’ said the prophet Muhammad, ‘and Allah has appointed you his guardian over it.’ The Islamic concept of halifa or trusteeship obliges Muslims to look after the natural world and Muhammad was one of the first ever environmentalists, advocating hima – areas where wildlife and forestry are protected. So we could expect more public parks under Islam, but halifa also applies to recycling: in 2006, 12,000 Muslims attended a series of sermons at the East London Mosque explaining the theological evidence for a link between behaving in an environmentally sustainable way and the Islamic faith.

**One doesn't need to convert to go green, oh and there were cultures that could be considered "green" long before Mo turned up.

Education
Presently, Muslim students perform less well than non-Muslim students. In inner London, 37 per cent of 16 to 24-year-old Muslims have no qualifications (the figure for the general population of the same age and location is 25 per cent). When it comes to university education the picture is equally gloomy: 16 to 24-year-old Muslims are half as likely to have degree level or above qualification than other inner London young people.Again, social factors rather than religion have led to this state of affairs. Young Muslims in London are often of south Asian origin and therefore more likely to live in households where English is not the first language, more likely to encounter racism (both intentional and unintentional) during their education, and more likely to suffer from poverty and bad housing conditions. But Tahir Alam, education spokesman for the Muslim Council of Britain, claims Muslim children do better in their own faith schools than in the mainstream state sector: ‘Muslim schools have their own distinct ethos. They use the children’s faith and heritage as primary motivators to provide the backdrop for their education and behaviour. This ethos is consistent with the messages that children are getting at home, so it is a very coherent operation between the home and the school.’

**As yes those ever tolerant religious schools, still no reason to convert there. Education at the end of the day is down to choice, if someone wants to learn and is motivated they will learn, if not they won't.

If Islam became the dominant religion in London the same ethos could be applied to schooling across swathes of underprivileged and deprived areas of the city. This could have a revolutionary effect on educational achievement and, perhaps just as importantly, general levels of discipline and self-respect among London’s young people. While controversy rages over faith schools, there are 37 Muslim schools in London. As of 2004, only five were state schools, but there is growing pressure to bring more into the state sector which, according to Alam, will ‘help raise achievement for many sectors of the Muslim community. Many private Muslim schools are under-resourced and if they can be brought into the state sector this valuable experience can be extended to more children.’

**And how long if that were that to happen would girls be allowed to go to school? Again the Taliban closed girls schools and barred women from the workplace. And you have not touched on what happens to those who refuse to convert?

Food
Application of halal (Arabic for ‘permissable’) dietary laws across London would free us at a stroke from our addiction to junk food, and the general adoption of a south Asian diet rich in fruit juice, rice and vegetables with occasional mutton or chicken would have a drastic effect on obesity, hyperactivity, attention deficit disorders and associated public health problems. As curry is already Londoners’ and the nation’s favourite food, it would be a relatively easy process to encourage the adoption of such a diet. Not eating would be important as well. The annual fasting month of Ramadan instils self-discipline, courtesy and social cohesion. And Londoners would benefit philosophically and physically from even a short period when we weren’t constantly ramming food into our mouths.

**Ok good diet is one thing, although still not a reason for anyone to change faith is it. One can have a fine diet even if you dont eat moslem style.

Inter-faith relationsIn an Islamic London, Christians and Jews – with their allegiance to the Bible and the Talmud – would be protected as ‘peoples of the book’. Hindus and Sikhs manage to live alongside a large Muslim population in India, so why not here? Although England has a long tradition of religious bigotry against, for instance, Roman Catholics, it is reasonable to assume that under the guiding hand of Islam a civilised accommodation could be made among faith groups in London. This welcoming stance already exists in the capital in the form of the City Circle (see Yahya Birt interview), which encourages inter-faith dialogue and open discussion.

**Shall I mention Kashmir and the wars between India and Pakistan? Shall I mention the forced convertions to Islam and threats to minority Christians in Pakistan?

Arts
Some of the finest art in London is already Islamic. The Jameel Gallery at the V&A houses ‘ceramics, textiles, carpets, metalwork, glass and woodwork, which date from the great days of the Islamic caliphate of the eighth and ninth century’ up until the turn of the last century. Or take a free daily tour of the Addis Gallery of Islamic art (at the British Museum). London-based Nasser David Khalili, an Iranian-born Jew, has amassed what is considered to be the world’s largest private collection of Islamic art. Islamic influences have also flourished in other areas of the arts, with novelists, comedians (Birmingham-born Shazia Mirza was an instant hit on the London circuit), and music (from rappers Mecca2Medina on, to the less in-your-face Yusuf Islam).

**Now yes I take your point on about Islamic art, although they are not to fussed when it comes to non moslem art forms. You know the sort of thing, faces being painted, statues being blown up by the Taliban, tv and records that go against the morals of Islam. Check out the list of art banned in Saudi Arabia - a very very large list.

Social justice
Each Muslim is obliged to pay zakat, a welfare tax of 2.5 per cent of annual income, that is distributed to the poor and the needy. If the working population of London, 5.2 million, was predominantly Muslim this would produce approximately £3.2bn each year. More importantly, everyone would be obliged to consider those Londoners who haven’t shared their good fortune. London would become a little less cruel.

**And I see a pig flying overhead, sorry forgot they are not allowed. Haram and all that.

Race relationsUnder Islam all ethnicities are equal. Once you have submitted to Allah you are a Muslim – it doesn’t matter what colour you are.

**Not quite the end, tolerance. That little word seems to be one missing from this, not a mention of the cartoons. Not a mention of the threats for our own 9/11, all those threats or were they promises of our own "Jihad on its way." - As for the stupid comment about all being equal and race not mattering, well tell that to the moslem extremists who thought it okay to plot the deaths of some white kufs.

Oh that last bit about race relations under Islam being equal is just a total crock of shit. Race relations between moslem groups are poor to put it in plain language. Just look at some of so called honour killings when a moslem women wants to marry another moslem from a different ethnic background, oh and I could start about the split between Persians/Arabs and over a thousand years of fighting each other, oh and that little divide that is causing so much fun, you know the one the Sunni/Shite malarky. Both moslem sects thing they are right and so try to kill each other to prove that fact.

End of story. --So many holes in that I could fly a 747 through it as flown by the "Glorious 19", oh best not mention moslems and planes.

This whole crock of shit from Timeout was done by a dhimmi by the name of
Michael Hodges, now when I first read it I though it would have to have been by a moslem, it read like the sort of moonbattery that comes from the mouth Vyonne Ridley (a moslem who still uses her kufir name). Now I don't know if Michael is a moslem or is converting to the moslem faith but if not I think he should.

As a result I feel that I have to give him a Jens Byskov dhimmi award for moral cowardice beyond that of most cowards, for those not in the know Jens was a moonbat who grovelled an apology to the moslems when they got their collective panties in a bunch over the Mo cartoons. The worthless prick is so spineless I am amazed he can stand upright, the same applies to Michael Hodges, so Michael I know give you a Jens dhimmi award.

http://newportcity.blogspot.com/2006/02/jens-byskov-dhimmi-of-year.html

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No Platform said...

A good long post

WomanHonorThyself said...

Brilliant analysis..truly..the UK is dhimmified and gone gone gone...ps.. Have an amazing weekend!

Anonymous said...

Thats a damn good post, like the Sultan Charles Prince of Islam touch :-D

As for the Empire something that should be plainly obvious to anyone and everyone is the fact that the Empire no longer exists because these people where and are opposed to British rule.
Nothings changed on that matter other than the fact that Britain itself is the final unvanquished piece of soil remaining that would finally bring about our end.
With it an Islamic commonwealth would be inevitable.

Rastaman said...

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